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2If the box freezes hard with bttv ...
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4
5It might be a bttv driver bug.  It also might be bad hardware.  It also
6might be something else ...
7
8Just mailing me "bttv freezes" isn't going to help much.  This README
9has a few hints how you can help to pin down the problem.
10
11
12bttv bugs
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14
15If some version works and another doesn't it is likely to be a driver
16bug.  It is very helpful if you can tell where exactly it broke
17(i.e. the last working and the first broken version).
18
19With a hard freeze you probably doesn't find anything in the logfiles.
20The only way to capture any kernel messages is to hook up a serial
21console and let some terminal application log the messages.  /me uses
22screen.  See Documentation/serial-console.txt for details on setting
23up a serial console.
24
25Read Documentation/oops-tracing.txt to learn how to get any useful
26information out of a register+stack dump printed by the kernel on
27protection faults (so-called "kernel oops").
28
29If you run into some kind of deadlock, you can try to dump a call trace
30for each process using sysrq-t (see Documentation/sysrq.txt).
31This way it is possible to figure where *exactly* some process in "D"
32state is stuck.
33
34I've seen reports that bttv 0.7.x crashes whereas 0.8.x works rock solid
35for some people.  Thus probably a small buglet left somewhere in bttv
360.7.x.  I have no idea where exactly, it works stable for me and a lot of
37other people.  But in case you have problems with the 0.7.x versions you
38can give 0.8.x a try ...
39
40
41hardware bugs
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43
44Some hardware can't deal with PCI-PCI transfers (i.e. grabber => vga).
45Sometimes problems show up with bttv just because of the high load on
46the PCI bus. The bt848/878 chips have a few workarounds for known
47incompatibilities, see README.quirks.
48
49Some folks report that increasing the pci latency helps too,
50althrought I'm not sure whenever this really fixes the problems or
51only makes it less likely to happen.  Both bttv and btaudio have a
52insmod option to set the PCI latency of the device.
53
54Some mainboard have problems to deal correctly with multiple devices
55doing DMA at the same time.  bttv + ide seems to cause this sometimes,
56if this is the case you likely see freezes only with video and hard disk
57access at the same time.  Updating the IDE driver to get the latest and
58greatest workarounds for hardware bugs might fix these problems.
59
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61other
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63
64If you use some binary-only yunk (like nvidia module) try to reproduce
65the problem without.
66
67IRQ sharing is known to cause problems in some cases.  It works just
68fine in theory and many configurations.  Neverless it might be worth a
69try to shuffle around the PCI cards to give bttv another IRQ or make
70it share the IRQ with some other piece of hardware.  IRQ sharing with
71VGA cards seems to cause trouble sometimes.  I've also seen funny
72effects with bttv sharing the IRQ with the ACPI bridge (and
73apci-enabled kernel).
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